Episode 12: Debbie Millman–What we shouldn't learn

We spend a lot of time looking at other people's designs, listening to them talk and trying to learn from them. But is there something we shouldn't learn from other designers?

Josh spoke to Debbie Millman—a brand consultant, an educator, a writer and a boss, although she hates that term, about the problems designers face while also trying to stand on the shoulders of giants.

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Thanks goes to Rainy Orteca who helped us get the recording sounding good. She's amazing.

Debbie's books include the recent Self Portrait as Your Traitor and the also mentioned and excellent How to Think Like a Great Graphic Designer.

This episode was recorded at the Masters in Branding studio at the School of Visual Arts in New York.